How could well-educated Bangkokians be deceived but poor lowly educated villagers can’t be deceived because they have enough information?

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Author: Ariyachai Unchern Date: 9 Aug 2549 18:22 Once again Thaksin treats poor lowly educated villagers like idiots. How could well-educated well-read with ability to access information throughout the world from variety of medias be deceived easily but poor lowly educated villagers who mostly communication to outside world comes from filtered TRT bias or corrupted officials can’t be deceived? Once again I am not against Thaksin personally but I detest what he stands for and the method he prepares to achieve his objectives. He deploys every means divides people, bribery & promotes corruptions, twist the rules of laws to achieve his aims. I am very surprise to see many well-educated Thais still support him but again that is Thai character traits. “Mee Sent” (access to influential people) is a big thing in Thailand disregard of how the influential person got there. You could be murderer, cheater, or whatever may be but if you “Mee Sent” you would get away with it and respect by your fellow Thai. I totally against all form of corruptions and selfishness; corruptions promotes violent because they could get away with it: corruption deters competitive because ability to do the tasks well would rarely get you promotion but having contact to higher up would. The evident are in front of our eyes incompetent officials, shooting, robbery, sex trade are prosperous in Thai society. Thailand riches in resources but are mismanaged by all governing bodies but Thaksin regime takes the biscuits. I am a 100% Thai seeing what going on clearly, I just wish there were “charisma person” with integrity and sincerely have Thai well-being at heart emerge in stead of another “influential person” who got there to rob & take advantage from my beautiful country Thailand.

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Author: Ariyachai Unchern Date: 30 Aug 2549 13:45 Reply #60 Khun Danuj Sir, I totally agree with your comment “”Every one has a price, to some it is material to others it is spiritual. The question then becomes, the rural vote or city vote, which is more cost effective?” One thing you don’t need Thaksin help is “Analytical & Communication Skills” as you already got both “Knowledge & Ability”. He announced lately about Thai education must be more toward “Analytical knowledge” He didn’t say Skills & Ability though bless him. It is frustrated to us both to see where Thailand is heading toward but has only little influence in changing the direction, we need more of our fellow Thais to be able to asset all info and think “Freely” & clearly at the end if they still want to continue the journey with Thaksin as Captain I would let do with my best wish that is the reason why I said “Education & Communication” is the way forward for Thailand progress. Majority of people choices made either material or spiritual due to accessibility. Base on your analysis may I expand further; People divide into two groups: First group has two choices either material or spiritual majority would place effort on both 80% material vs. 20% spiritual. The second group would choose spiritual as the only choice available to them. I could go on but I am sure you understand clearly where I am heading and able to fill the blank yourself. What could we do and how could we do it? Knowledge & Communication are the immediate answer. We must continue posting factual, Questions which avoided answer by Thaksin, analysis base on factual evident and so on using “Persuasion style” communicate to all our fellow Thai. Remember “Chinese Torture” drip, drip, drip a drop water might not dent s solid surface but regularly drops of water one at a time would make dent eventually. Use only facts & logical reason & don’t be rude, I have notice quit a few of us about and by the way we are not “Elitist” we have life experience, educated mind & still learning but most of all we are decent human being. I want pro Thaksin to participate in the discussion they could be rude & ignorance to me as much as they like, I would continue maintain my composure and persistently request the logical answer.

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Author: Ariyachai Unchern Date: 30 Aug 2549 02:35 Reply #58 Sparker Sir, I don’t know exactly what you are trying to say I presume you are as frustrated as me. I do understand that most of politician are corrupted the uncorrupted are unable able to communicate if communicate no one take any notice because he/she is not influential. To say only politician corrupted is a little understatement, the whole society is corrupted. We prefer to slip 100 baht into traffic police palm to pay the full fine to the coffer, we would bribe head teacher to admit our children to high school when they fail entrance exam, we would offer bribery to authority get work contracts and so on. We all treat corruption as a normal part of daily life, we don’t even think twice about doing it. In actual fact if one refuses one would be accuse of being stupid or not smart. Sir, I came from family that did business with government. Contracts were rewarded even though the prices were clearly higher than private business pay it is integral part of business with government which we are more than happy to participate, actual fact proud. We live in corruption society but we have no choice to be part of, but we don’t have to like it. We could gradually moving away from corruption by trying, “It is better try but fail than fail to try” There is common factor in corruption activity, government relates to high rank Army/Police officers. They came with luggage after they secure they positions, they seem to bring the rest with them. One solution to avoid the situation is do not cast your vote for any high rank Army/Police officers MP candidate in the next election. I could give you so many country as example why Army/Police officers is bad for Governing body but it would take too long, I am you cloud find out and work out yourself. Why do I fell so strong about Thaksin? In the past corruption activities were done in the vultures manner, no organization, no leader every one for themselves they take as much as they could when full they stop; it is unorganized crime. Thaksin corruption is a different matter, it is business of corruption; he is the leader, paymaster and creator in other word it is an organized crime. If my fellow Thai could not break it now it would be even harder to break them in the futures. I only try to warn my fellow Thais of my analysis as I could see clearly where Thailand ship is heading toward with most of my fellow Thai as silent / non-active passengers. I will continue to shout message over hope that passengers would hear but sadly the captain use every mean to down my voice. I will continue trying to communicate what I see until the next election is over then I would spend more time living what life has to offer. Don’t feel sorrow for me “poor Ariyachai”, I am 100% Thai with British passport as you probably aware by now I live in Cambridge, UK the City of Knowledge. Think what I said about High rank Army/Police officers is bad for Governing body. I wish I could let you live my life in UK for 5 years, you would see what I see.

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Author: Anti-toxin Date: 29 Aug 2549 03:41 "JB", I agree! The Thaksin foot-lickers are very childish. But we should feel pity for them, because they are uneducated people who have been bought by Thaksin's dirty money.

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Author: Danuj Kamolvathin Date: 29 Aug 2549 03:30 Khun Ariyachai Sir, I am empathetic to your concerns. The current crisis that Thailand faces is a manifestation of many ill conceived contemptuous ideas forwarded by the caretaker and the TRT. There is no one action that can undo the moral and morale damage that has engulfed Thailand and its subjects. It is my opinion that education may or may not have anything to do with being susceptible. I believe it all comes down to price. Everyone has a price, to some it is material to others it is spiritual. The question then becomes, the rural vote or city vote, which is more cost effective? The comments being made by the provincial TRT ministers are quite disturbing. Stating that they want to bring the fight to Bangkok to protect democracy is absurd. People have the right to protest peacefully. To use confrontation as an excuse to forward political agendas is absolutely unacceptable. Although I do not agree with many of the PAD tactics and political platforms, it is still their right to voice concerns that they believe are important. The wonderful thing about freedom is that we all don’t have to agree. Is this not the basis for democracy? What the TRT and the caretaker strive for is one party with one vote, this is not possible in a true democracy. Tolerance for the opinion of others is something that is lacking in the administration of Thailand thus the dissent. No matter what the outcome is in the future, leaders need to recognize how important it is to hear all concerns not just the ones that the majority rule feels are important.

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Author: Ariyachai Unchern Date: 28 Aug 2549 20:06 Reply #49 Big brother of Siam Sir, your responded to Regular Reader are logical and factual, I understand your comment perfectly. Somehow I wonder why some of our fellow Thai fails to utilize the knowledge and education they acquired, the only answer I came up with are personal interest, selfishness. Surely it can’t be nation interest as prove throughout the world that corruptions have negative effect to nation progress in the long term. Marcos, Suharto is a clear example Philippine & Indonesia people are currently paying for it now. Thailand progress is not due to any particular political party it is part of the world business & commercial. I live through Margaret Thatcher Era and now Tony Blair Era both Era UK is moving forward keep up with the place to the world. The priority may change from left to right, right to left, bottom up or top down but the whole progress done in the most openly & transparent manner. The people opinion changes the government respond to people wish. There is one thing clearly different between Thai vs. British is “Honest opinion” and “Freedom of speech”. I suppose as long as most of the Press Thai publication keeps theirs mouth shut for whatever reason our poor & lowly educated and lack communication would be always be “Blind to the Fact”. They have common sense but they are just not expose to the truth only selected truth 50% of the truth and nothing but the truth as Thaksin want to feed our fellow Thai. We must try, try and try some of our opinion might just get through somehow. As I said before most of Thai press adopt “Me see something, me hear lots of things but me decide to say Nothing” that is Thai freedom of the press to you lack courage & Integrity.

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Author: Sparker Date: 28 Aug 2549 19:53 My poor Ariyachai. As I have 50 years old, I have never seen uncorrupted Thai Politician. They got a wife but society did not know it. They gave Sor Por Kor 401 to a millionare Southerner,but they said it was legalised. They decided to let NongGhuuHao go ahead with real expensive cost of construction. After graduation,They have never had business,but they had Mercedes Benz or BMW. for a ride. Once they came to be a Bangkok Governor only a year,they have to discharge the Deputy of the Governer. That, The examples for the wise Ariyachai

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Author: JB Date: 28 Aug 2549 03:34 How very sad some of the childish comments are here; just the sort of comments I would expect from a third rate undergraduate political student or even a Nation 'journalist'. (who sadly, do not even make it up to third rate these days).

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Author: A Southerner Date: 28 Aug 2549 01:06 You can say that again that Bangkokians are easier to be fooled if Aphishit heads the government! You know why? Beacuse he has promised too many unfeasible projects and now he has come out to criticize the TRT of slow operation of mass transportations in Bangkok during the past 5 years! We all know that during the 8 years of the Democrats in government they had hardly solved the traffic congestion in Bangkok let alone the mass transportation projects, as I remember Chuan had add 2000 long-body busses to worsen the already congested roads of Bangkok! The Democrats didn't even have any knowledge of how to build mass transportations such as sky-trains etc., instead the Democrats are telling us the TRT hasn't done enough and fast enough to cope with such system! I sure like to see Aphishit's promises of 12 year-free-education, free medical treatment for all, minimize traffic congestion in Bangkok, fight the corruption and drug, minimize or stop the ongoing violences in the south! Tell me about it fools!

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Author: @@@@ Date: 27 Aug 2549 19:27 Pattani problem is not thaksin's doing. The problem has been there for over 100 years !!! Any any historian. Then came the libyans, middle east money that probably funded the south like pattani. somebody is giving the nuts money. Thaksin trying to stop them. Look, Prem tried, Chuan tried, all tried not vail.

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Author: J Date: 27 Aug 2549 13:08 Thailand is paying the cost for keeping the poor poor while the rich have growh richer during the past 20-30yrs. Unlike Banharn, or Chavalit or Chatchai, under the Thaksin regime upcountry folks aren't forgotten when a 200 baht election bribe is paid. As a regular visitor to Issan, I've seen the province being developed for the first time in a generation; utilities, parks, infrastructure, and accessible banking facilities, etc.

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Author: Timor Les Date: 27 Aug 2549 10:52 THAKSIN CREATED PATANI MALAY PROVINCES MORE PROBLEMS: Thaksin never solved the problems, but creating more and more problems.......... If your brother, son, husband or father was killed or paralysed in the way that brothers, sons, husbands, fathers and mothers were killed and paralysed at Tak Bai Killings Fields Tragedy. What actions might you be capable??. Dictator Thaksin was the only the root of unrest in Thailand South. They will NEVER forget, violence created by the Thailand soldiers and corrupt police or secretly involve by Thaksin will create more violence. Violence committed by Thaksin will lead to revenge in the form of terrorism. Any terrorism created by Thailand soldiers will breed more terrorism between Thais and Malays. Such revenge might come from Thailand soldiers(Thais) or from the local peoples(Malays). Both side will create a hot fire and ruin the country. So, what? In reality, Patani Malay villagers love to live in peace in their own native-land. Pataniland is the only their own-land. They don't like the terrorism in nature. They like the natural and peaceful life. Why the Thailand government disturb and rob their peace politically? Now Thaksin like to use his power to kill the local villagers. Is there anything wrong with Thaksin’s hobby of killing? His hobby like to drink the Malay blood emotionally. Are you an animal species in modern Thailand? Actually, you were a Dracula’s leader in Thailand. You abused the position of Thai PM. You abused your power in the name of TRT party. The previous Thailand's PM was very good. Most of them know very well how to win the Malay’s heart. I'm sorry to say, Thaksin is the worst PM in Thai modern history. This Thaksin wanted to practice the genocide secretly as long as they are in Malay blood. As a top leader in any country, it was so bad attitude!!! The strange matter is this Thaksin looks so fear to any “Malay words” but not to the “Thai Muslim”. Why he was so fear to the “Malay”. He would be able to mention the words “Thai Muslim” hundred times a day. To mention the word “Malay” once in his life seems so difficult. Is there spiritual power within the “Malay” words? Is there any hidden secret towards the Malay ethnics? There were so difficult to find the word “Malay” in any aspect of life in Thailand. For him, Thai Muslims were nothing but just only third class. Why the Thaksin so fear to the Malay words and Malay potential? Did he so fear because of the hidden spiritual strength of Malay or what? And why? Based on our observation, I got the answer already. He was a bad PM ever in modern history. Think about it. Remember, if you treated them like an animal or inhuman at Tak Bai Killing Fields, you might have to know the answer at present and future? They will determine themselves Thaksin is the only a real hidden terrorist leader in Asia. You are the real terrorist creator in this region. Now, they were trying to change themselves similar way like what you behaved badly in return. How bad you behave to the local villagers will determine how bad they will behave back to you. If you kill their kids, then they will kill back your bad Thai soldiers. You can not just by simply claim that, they are “terrorist”. Actually, Thailand’s soldiers were the terrorist creator. And Thaksin were the real terrorist leader in Asia. The Malay villagers were peace people but Thaksin’s violence idea will only create hot fire. They have their right to defend their native-land. They were the real land-owner of Patani Malay Territories. I believe, the violence created by you Thaksin will creates more violence in future. Stop blaming others hundred percents. By blaming the poor villagers will never solve the conflict. How come to blame the poor? Why not to help them? You failed to use your brain properly. You were project yourself as a very “naughty boys”. By the end, I just wanna say that you were creating your country to be a "THAILAND IN RUINED!!" Thailand’s government should withdraw their troops from the country’s violence-torn south and negotiate with Patani Liberation movements or local Malay Patanian leaders or at least to respect their human right to end the sectarian fighting. For a real peace, a maturity in politics is needed. Your emotional PM like Thaksin will never solve this bloody conflict between the Thai and Malays. What did you think the future of the entire Thailand as a whole body if you are stand-still on fire? Thaksin has to pay with his mistakes of killings the innocent civilians in this smiling land of Patani Malay Territories. The Thailand’s soldiers land occupation is a ‘GREAT MISTAKEs”. By bringing the Thailand troops in this region will also never solve the problems. The decree power will make the situation getting worst. As a proof, since January 2004, the Thailand troops just only bringing more difficulties and even creating more problems in deep South(Malay region). I can say, Thailand troops can only create more troubles. Even make the situation getting worst on daily basis. What bloody hell you are talking about bringing peace to deep South(Malay region)? Never…. Why not the ASEAN members need to take action on Thaksin’s killings in South? As the Malaysia reputation at international level very good especially under United Nation flag. The Malaysia could be the BEST candidate to talk about the Patani-Thailand’s conflict. As a good proof, the respectable Malaysian troops had sent to help the Philipines government and solve their Mindanao’s conflict. So far, the Malaysia soldiers perform very well and did it SUCCESSFULLY. Congratulation to the excellent Malaysia!!! Why not to let the respectable Malaysian troops to give an opportunity in order to play a big role to help the Thailand? Why the ASEAN members choose some sort of double standard of practice in the issue of Pataniland and Thailand’s conflict? Is that any different between Phillipines and Thailand? Is there any different between Myanmar and Thailand? For me, all of them were a “SICK-MAN” candidates in Asia. At present, a real peace in Timor Leste after a long term peace agreement had been agreed. “NEED SINCERE LONG TERM PEACE AGREEMENT AND GUNUINE SOLUTIONs BETWEEN PATANILAND AND THAILAND.” Politics and Prime Minister post are not for you. Better to resign now. Thank you.

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Author: Bangkok Democrate Supporter Date: 27 Aug 2549 10:24 PM Thaksin appeared as if he had gone “crazy” when he was addressing some 10,000 taxi drivers last time. His attitude were very bad. What Thai PM like this? The words showed that he lacked no respect to opinions of people who disagree with the government and that he was looking down on people. He can use the same old tired tactics to ride out the most serious corruption scandals of his administration. It would appear the prime minister has desperately pushed the panic button, and exactly how the Thai public will react to that remains a big question. Crazy Thaksin……you the only crazy boy in Bangkok. Are you going to challenge us to become a real “anti-toxin”?

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Author: Witaya Sungkarat Date: 27 Aug 2549 03:48 royman, # 47: “… I am thinking whose super rich are looking at everyday Thais and thinking Land of smiles sure, cause they are not clever enough to get angry or make decisions on their own. Just throw them a bone every now and then, …” Please keep in your mind that Thai believe in past-life sins and next-life paying back. It has been and will be the best situation to buy votes. They are honest and will not betray. … until they earn enough not to take vote-buying money or believe that there is no sin to betray ones who buy votes.

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Author: sardarji Date: 27 Aug 2549 00:15 Screw takshit !

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Author: Big Brother of Siam Date: 26 Aug 2549 23:31 To: Regular Reader Khun Ariyachai did not assume that most well-educated people in bangkok want to get rid of Thaksin? It is a fact of life in Bangkok. Go and ask any sensible, well-informed and intelligent Thai on the street and you will get your answer quickly. If after all these years you still do not realize this then all I can say is you are not a smart person. Like Khun Ariyachai I feel very insulted then Toxin told the northern people that educated people in Bangkok are stupid and easily fooled by bad people (meaning people who bad-mouth him like those in the P.A.D.) while uneducated people in the countryside are more intelligent because they listen to the truth and wisdon that he shares with them. How pathetic! I wonder who is he trying to fool? I also wonder who is the "bad and cunning guy" who is always preaching lies and feeding bullshit to the uneducated poeple up-country? We in Bangkok are very much better informed and more exposed to the outside world than the average person in the countryside simply because of the poorer communications and information channels and sources available to them. You know and I know that the government in this country censors a lot of news and independent opinions. Assuming the same educational level it is natural that we in Bangkok will be better informed and will be able to make better decisions for ourselves. The up-country people only hear what the government wants them to hear, which is no different from the practices of the communist governments in China, Russia, Cuba, etc. There is nothing strange about 150 people rallying outside Prem's house, asking him to protect Thaksin. If you look closely at their faces you will find that most of them are the same crowd of "thugs" or "demonstrators for hire." What is funny and ridiculous is that they are asking Prem to "protect" Toxin. How laughable! Toxin is the PRIME MINISTER with all kinds of power in his hands and has placed his trusted lieutenants in all the important government agencies, including the police (a.k.a. Thai Gestapo -- witness the way they acted during the recent scuffle at the Central World Plaza) and the military (who specialize in abusing and oppressing the Thai people but are seemingly powerless in defending the country against agressors for centuries), while Prem is just a humble president of the Privy Council with no actual power over any government security agencies. I will bet that Toxin is trying to pin the blame on Prem with his latest staged assasination attempt. We will just have to see what kind of shennanigan Toxin is trying to spin this time. The soap opera of the decade continues! What a shame!

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Author: Date: 26 Aug 2549 21:51 Royman Well said... Let me add that besides all the things you mentioned it is also very worthwhile to keep the people poor and stupid. How else can you fuel the huge prostitution business. How much money does tourism (sex tourism) bring into Thailand? .. Keep the people poor.. Stress a strong obligation to support the family (women only..men have no such obligation)...turn a blind eye. Who cares what an effect it has on the nation... When you stay in Thailand for a long time you see more...It ain't pretty.

Reply # 47

Author: royman Date: 26 Aug 2549 08:23 I know that I am a 'guest' living here, But why tell me if you can, is it that those who run the country, whose who want to run the country, whose who think they know who should run the country, whose who know someone who should or is running the country, are all so bent? I am begining to believe that the education system is so poor because of the above, The least you know the less chance there is of being caught! The only ones caught are from the others in the know getting their own back! The normal joe public seems to only know what they can buy in the market! half the town centres in rural districts are owned by one or two people who also own the bus station, the hotels, are in government and own the road building company that gets the contract to build the road???and half the land in the district. HOW can that be right? I am thinking whose super rich arelooking at everyday Thais and thinking Land of smiles sure, cause they are not clever enough to get angry or make decisions on their own. Just throw them a bone every now and then, a title deed, a new road, a couple of hundred when their crops fail because the dam contract money is resting in a bank somewhere earning extra interest for a few years. well we put up a few workers huts but nobody there not this year.... need I go on. It doesnt matter who is in office, their circus following is earning very well just some now want the icing of the cake as well, cause they think the currant govenment have had their share already. Wake up, its not fresh air you can smell, but the smell of deep deep routed greed. will it change? I doubt it! will the smile go, I doubt it! let us hope that things will change and Thai's will get back some of their wealth, because as a race they need it.

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Author: Again Date: 26 Aug 2549 02:24 I just think this one needs repeating: Thaksin solved stupidly the drug problem by killing people is correct???? Those people deserved for it?? Why he does not start the War on Corruption by killing all those corruptive officers including himself? OR get out from Bangkok. We Bangkokian can not accept you anymore. Understand?? Hey bustard Thaksin...... Stop hiding your administration weakness. All problems came from you. your personal hidden agenda. Why not to kill yourself first? Shame on you, Thaksin!!!

Reply # 45

Author: Ariyachai Unchern Date: 25 Aug 2549 22:32 Reply #44 Regular reader Sir, I found very difficult to have discussion with my fellow Thai fruitfully, one quality my fellow Thai lack is “Listening & analytical skills”. The topic was Thaksin words when he tour Northern Thailand, he spoke to group of local people I only turn it to question for discussion. I could understand why he said what he said. Communication Technique & Skills was a part of training prior to my promotion to Operations Director in UK. I don’t want to bore you with the details but it was comprehensive, professional Management in plc in UK must be able to communicate effectively to all level, at all situations we achieve our objective through people effort & commitment. Thaksin want to made his audiences feel good about themselves by lead them to believe they are superior “they are told the truth, educated Bangkokian were deceived by bad people”. He use word such “Elitist” to divide Thai and so on. I don’t want to go on, please read one sentence at a time absorb, analyze and take in the meaning then read the next sentence. If the meaning is not clear go back to read again. There is no point to put more food in full mouth, it wouldn’t get in or would be even more difficult to chew. I did not and never say all educated Bangkokian against Thaksin on contrary I believe there are more educated & well off for Thaksin than against but they are unable to back up with logical reason to support theirs preference. For us “Against corruption & exploitation” is easy the fact are everywhere and every day Thaksin add more to it. Numerous of time I have put the questions but rarely get the logical, sensible respond apart from he is strong, the court vote 8-7 in his favor or worst of all accused me of live in UK too long, living in UK for the last 30 years participate in all activities should be a positive quality, I am a 100% Thai watching the situation from the bench. Sadly majority of the press in Thailand play dumb, “Me see something hear lots of thing but me decide to say nothing”. Pro-Thaksin always says Thaksin had done a lot for the poor, I say otherwise. #1. What Thaksin had given to poor was “Honey coated poison pills” extract potential future income from poor by let them have debts without increasing earning capability. What does they have to show for now? To be obsolete mobile phone, I wonder which company benefits the most, could it be AIS I wonder? Do you understand “Net worth”? I wonder what my poor & lowly educated fellow Thai Net worth now compare to 6 years ago? The same question applies to the rich about theirs net worth. #2. To help the poor Government needs to tax the rich, Income Tax above national average earning must pay more 30, 35, 40, 50%, property tax, capital gain tax, inherited tax and so on. The rich would have only a bit less to spend on “Luxury activity & goods” so that the poor could afford some of “Essential activity & goods”. What did Thaksin do? Not only he didn’t do a lot but also waste financial resources on over price Mega projects. If he were a professional CEO in any plc in the civilize world he would has been dismissed long time ago starting from asset concealment, “silly mistake” my ass and you educated people believe him. I am not surprise he called educated Thai a fool. #3. Do you think most of if not all Mega project were corrupted? Who use these Mega projects? Is it poor & lowle educated Thai? How much did TRT government spend on Education, Health & Hygiene? Sir, I conclude Thaksin is bad for Thailand; the problem is TRT without Thaksin would be in shamble and highly likely going to loose Election and Thaksin could not allow that to happen, cans of rotten worms would be opened. With Thaksin still at the helm of TRT would win the next election but with slim majority unless the press and educated & influence Thai communicate the truth to poor & lowly educated section of Thai population. I would continue playing my part as I did in 1973 without that period we would be similar to Burma now. Currently we are heading toward Philippine & Indonesia past we owe it to our children & future generation.

Reply # 44

Author: Regular reader Date: 25 Aug 2549 17:19 Questions for Ariyachai: Don't you think this is a strange news because accd to your assumption, most well-educated people in bangkok want to get rid of Thaksin? 150 people rally outside Prem's house, asking him to protect Thaksin A group of 150 people turned up in front of the residence of Privy Council President Prem Tinsulanonda Friday morning, asking him to help protect caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The group turned up at Prem's house at 8:30 am. They were not allowed to enter the residence and an aide of the Privy Council president came out to meet them. They begged Prem through the aide to "help protect the life of the prime minister of the poor". The Nation

Reply # 43

Author: The poor people can decide! Date: 25 Aug 2549 16:38 Why do so many people in Bangkok think the rural poor are stupid. Have a look at this: http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/?p=157 This blog has a lot of good stuff about Thaksin and shows how many of the Bangkok elite just cannot accept the views of the people in the provinces.

Reply # 42

Author: Legal Eagle Date: 25 Aug 2549 14:39 In response to #24: In my short time living in Bangkok I have observed some very particular behavior. For instance, in the workplace Thai's generally do not like to accept responsibility for their actions. Rather they like to "pass the buck" to someone else. I find this interesting because when I first started my career in law firms in America some of the most important things I learned, I learned by making mistakes. Without ever accepting responsibility you will never learn from your mistakes and therefore you will continue to make the same ones. I could make a laundry list of examples from my experience of working here but I will refrain from doing so in the interest of keeping this brief. So you may be reading this and wondering, what does this have to do with the topic in this discussion? Well, Thanksin doesn't like to admit mistakes, he is quite quick to shift the blame or completely deny any wrongdoing. This then snowballs into more mistakes and more denials. I carry a western point of view so I may be biased but I find it much easier to accept your mistakes and learn from them rather than deny your mistakes and then continue to make them over and over, all the while denying that you are at fault for the mistakes. This is a vicious cycle that needs to be broken.

Reply # 41

Author: a watcher Date: 24 Aug 2549 12:46 Sorry Mr. Chooser, this is my last. The TRT's, the dear leader's life-pride, achievement, probably would-be top list to sell for vote gathering, project, Suwanaphum New Airport project, we have to cool down and think over again. When Thaksin I came in, still it was not late to switch the site to Bang Bun offshore in east side beach front, which was plotted for a metropolitan sewage treatment system. At that time, it was noisy by corruption accusations and wrong engineering regarding land fillings by local Italian Thai Deveopment company. Many reknown engineering consultants refused this site as it is large water basin and important water holding zone. Also it must be earmarked for imminent expansion of blasting Bangkok as the economy grows quickly. Thailand need more urban service area. The reason why they appreciated more on the offshore reclaiming site, is that Airborn traffic is the critical air pollution resource, remote from ground control, noises, restriction to healthy metropolitan development as well as safety and security. Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea etc etc all went out offshore far away from core metro, reclaimed and creating new land and built really fantastic intetrated traffic, business and pollution control or even entertaining facilities. All are linked fantastic bullet trains to core urban where air terminal locates. This is double triple cinergied development project - real Mega-Projects. The outcome is immence in new tech devel, new income source, new mode of life stype. Bang Bun Idea was so integral, Land fill is easier by dredging Chao praya river bottom which eat up huge annual tax money, dredging down to Koh Sichang will provide deep seaway to bring Cruiser ships (like Queen Mary II). The airport will be supplemented by passenger port terminal to re-bind many tourists direction Pattaya, Koh Samui, Hua Hin as well as Oriental Hotel pier in good catamaran high speed ferry or hydrofoil speed boats. All dirty sewage treatment is gone underground of airport. Solid waste, urgan garbage burn there and electricify the airport. Airport can expand endlessly, If need more, fill land more. All export airborne cargo quickly on board and ship out to Maptapub or industry zone along Chao Praya river by boats, barges and relieve on-road traffic and accidents. Nhong Hu Hai land fill cost was double than offshore land fills but the tragedy is the nature of water basin condition is very doubtful to hold runaway dry to meet safety standard. it is cracking, submerging, repairing, exactly like the road Bangna-Trad Sukhumvit road. Airplane is easily tumbled down at 1 degree surface bumps. 1 inch crack easily tear off landing gear. One thing more, How in this world they construct new high-end, luxurious city around noisy, polluted, every 1 minute airing landing busy airport ?. Who is the idea of this ?. New airport is built just 25 km away from 10million soon 15million world class international city of Bangkok ?, not 50 or 100km away ?. His majesty's Setakit pur piang teach you guys, before doing something, think first, justify first, plan first and consider for next 100 years future of the country, then once concluded, resolutely, decisively perform to achieve success. This is his advice. If we really need new airport, if we can not use 35 km away old airport by mending, as if unified Germany does for old Berlin airport. they dont have money so that just mend repaint small Khonkaen airport size 100 years old airport ?. Germany no need to borrow money to do anything. Suwanaphum airport is built by Japanese money. This is really 'DEBT PARTY'.

Reply # 40

Author: Ariyachai Unchern Date: 24 Aug 2549 12:34 Reply #36, 37, 38 A watcher Sir, I truly salute you, you are a truly educated mind to the level of “Wise man”. Your knowledge about Thailand politic & economic past is excellent I presume you are in investment advisor or consultant line of business. Thaksin should engage your service then again it is not in his character; he doesn’t listen he only like his voice. I prefer to listen to you any time at least I really learn something tangible, from him it remind me of farting sound, it may not sound exactly like fart but it really does has the same effect, it is STINK! Once again I salute you, sir. You know the truth, tell the truth, you may push tongue in your cheek but you told them as it was my learned friend.

Reply # 39

Author: Thaksin Great Politcal Mistake Date: 24 Aug 2549 12:33 THAKSIN SICK AND MENTAL PROBLEMS: PM Thaksin's bad attitude and personality are a problems. His personality style and bad attitude contributed to the present political unstability in Thailand now. Can you see what happened in Bangkok and the South unrest? Did he still wanted to blame others especially the local Malay villagers? The worst case, he really committed to create a great political mistakes in dealing with the Malay ethnics community in deep South. He has to understand, the issues of deep South presently just become a very sensitive issues to the Malay community. To tackle such sensitive issues, he need to be patient and matured enough. Over confidence or any greedy attitude by you will destroy all. Only a matured person and respectable leader can deal with such lengthy historically problematic issues. By using a violence tactics was so stupid. Such an arrest or killing any innocent peoples with any reason will contributed to another violence in the form of revenge. Come on, peoples were educated enough to judge you. Now, the Thailand situation does have a stability problem. The problem is not came from the people who are protesting you in Central Bangkok or the Patani Malay in deep South. The only a real issue is yourself, "Thaksin". Your administration weakness and your sensitivity. Your bad attitude and personality as a big leader. Now, everything was too late to repair. Only you need to resign from your nice seat as a Prime Minister. You are not the right person. Mr.Anand or Somkid could be better than you. Since January 2004 till now, Thaksin was at the root of the current political unrest in deep South(Patani Malay Territories). By creating extra great political mistakes in both region(Bangkok and Malay Region) will make him in the position of trouble, I am afraid. His hobby likely to sue anybody(people from Bangkok) and kill anybody(people from deep South) who against him or criticize his style. Why you need to sue them? What to do with this emotional-man? You were so bad. Did you get a warning from the respectable King. What was wrong with you, Thaksin? Sorry......Please go and check your mental problems. Do it now!!!!!!!!

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